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The public is becoming unsatisfied with the performance of the Govt, the tension is building yet again. Is there yet another coup on the way?

Will there be another coup in Thailand?

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Quote:Thousands of police officers have barricaded roads around Government House to block anti-government protestors from moving in to besiege the government seat Friday afternoon, aimed at pressureing the elected government to resign.

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Coffee Break Wrote:The public is becoming unsatisfied with the performance of the Govt,

If you pick a number between 20,000 and 100,000 members of a protest or mob that's not close to public dissatisfaction with the government. That's not even enough to fill a decent sized football stadium.

It's a very few core people in PAD that are instigating the problems in Thailand and trying their hardest to cause a confrontation leading to bloodshed and the downfall of the justly elected government. Every time the PAD gets a concession from the government they move the goal posts and ask for something even more outrageous. It's time for this to end for the good of the country and for the government, police and military to stand firm and disperse mobs in the street, in any way that is necessary before further damage is done to tarnish Thailand and the Monarchy's image though out the world.

If Thailand is going to let a bunch of street protesters run their government why bother even having elections. Why not just let Anarchy rule. I'm beginning to think that's what they deserve, they sure aren't getting any closer to democracy.

There are 3 choices. A military Dictatorship (That got Thailand into this mess), a bunch of non elected elites who think they know what's good for the majority even though they represent a very small slice of Thai society, or tuff out the elected government and change it in the voting booth, at the end of their term, if the majority of the people think it's that bad. My money is that the wrong selection will be made once again.
lukamar Wrote:There are 3 choices. A military Dictatorship (That got Thailand into this mess), a bunch of non elected elites who think they know what's good for the majority even though they represent a very small slice of Thai society, or tuff out the elected government and change it in the voting booth, at the end of their term, if the majority of the people think it's that bad. My money is that the wrong selection will be made once again.

There is an imminent No. 4, that is a nationalistic government, led by whoever. If you look at the headlines of the news in Thailand now you see items like

- Terror and violence in the South,

- UN against deportation of Hmong back to Laos,

- Fighting about Prear Vihear with Cambodia,

- Abhisit asks the MPs who are "real Thais" to vote against Samak, etc

The beating of the nationalist drum killed the Weimar Republic in Germany before. The world knows what came next: "nationalsocialism". No matter whether the Name of the guy in power now is Thaksin or Samak or even Abhisit.

No I don't think there will be another coup so soon again. They have learned the lessen that governing a country in a situation like now and here is not easy: a miracle in public education is needed.
I watched Samak on TV. I have to admit I didn't pick it all up as my Thai is no where near that good, but my wife translated. A couple of things stood out and I had to agree with him.

The media has elevated the PAD leaders to the status of the elected MP's and treats PAD like an extension of the opposition. If 10,000 of us Farang besieged Parliament or even marched in a pro farang protest for Farang Rights we would be on the next plane home without mention in the media. The situation has been exacerbated by the media, probably to sell papers and for the dramatic effect.

The present government, and it wouldn't mater who formed the government after the election, inherited a few of things that are way beyond their control. World oil prices which they have no control over, the Cambodian temple map which the Democrats accepted in the 60's, a totally concocted and somewhat unworkable constitution and a totally screwed up economy that the bequest from the coupe.

While the performance of the government may not have been stellar, the other players involved have not helped and work hard to attack it at every opportunity rather than trying to work with the government to rectify the problems. The Senate and the Democrats are just as much to blame for Thailand's problems at the moment as the government. They both act like vindictive children, the Democrats still not accepting that the Thai population did not vote for them. Both bodies have done their best to disrupt the parliamentary process. The latest censure debates, despite the fact that polls show over 70% of the Thai population say it is unnecessary and premature, is just one example.

And KC, it's the PAD and the Democrats that are calling for a nationalistic government, isn't that ironic. They are calling for a form of government that could bring the downfall of the institution they both claim the government does not support.

This is another personal observation. My wife who has been a staunch Democrat for quite some time has changed her thinking. She hated Samak when he was elected but now she feels that he's doing the best that he and the government can because of the worldwide economic conditions. She also felt that the Government should have used force a month ago to disperse the protesters that are disrupting bangkok. She said let them protest but not in the street. An interesting turn which I think my be universal.

My feeling is that if the Government can hold out intact through this week they should get back to business making changes to the constitution and doing what is necessary to run the country and should just ignore the PAD. Let them protest for the next 3 1/2 years if need be.
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